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MAGA: I hope you liberals can see now that DEI was always the problem. And I know what you're going to say, no that doesn't make me racist, facts don't care abo–
LIBERAL: Oh definitely.
MAGA: wait what?
L: I agree with you. DEI is 100% the problem.
M: Explain...?
L: See, here we were, the majority, all ready to get behind our candidate and really do some wonderful things in this great nation, all united behind one single cause. But then, out of nowhere, diversity struck. MAGA, the Tea Party, christofascists, the KKK, even literal actual Nazis, all under the banner of "Republicans". I don't think we need all that Diversity. We're going to get rid of it.
M: wait what do you mean get rid of—
L: But how did all that diversity gain power, when the majority was against it, you ask? I'm glad you asked. The electoral college. This DEI policy has gone on too long. It allows a bunch of red states with tiny populations to think they deserve equity in terms of voting for president. Obviously that Equity needs to stop.
M: but that would mean Kamala—
L: And it gets even worse. Because not only do red state minorities think they get to have equal voting power for president, they also think they get to be included in the Senate! Imagine, a tiny red state that's mostly dirt like Wyoming or Montana thinking their ideas about the law are as important as a gigantic world economy like California. Clearly, we don't need Inclusion either. The majority left can just write your laws for you.
M: no I don't want—
L: I'm so glad we're finally on the same page! Finally, after all these years of divisive rhetoric, we can band together and work to rid ourselves of the scourge of the Republican party, the electoral college, and tiny red states in the Senate. DEI was ALWAYS the problem. Down with DEI! Down with DEI!
M: BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT DEI MEANS
L: well what did you think DEI meant?
M: I THOUGHT IT MEANT BLACK PEOPLE
L: There it is.
@Lana@beige.party DEI was explicitly about preventing this kind of racist patronage. It EXPLICITLY helps to keep mediocrities from undermining group effectiveness with their prejudice
I understand the desire to co-opt their terminology. But Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion is not a term they made. Renaming it desegregation or whatever is just such a sad step backwards
I understand that leftists do not own the media, but realize that accepting the premise of "DEI bad and leads to a lack of merit" is poison
@ariaflame @cykonot @Lana whoa. The point went flying over someone's head...
@Lana @OldAndCranky @ariaflame i understood, thanks.
So what you're saying is, you knew that I, a woman, knew the point I was making via very obvious satire, but you, a man, still felt the need to explain my idea back to me. Gee if only there were a word for that.
@Lana @OldAndCranky @ariaflame maybe you don't care to understand my point.
Sparky, "your point" is my point, explained back to me as if I was too stupid to understand my own point.
That's the point.
@Lana @OldAndCranky @ariaflame I can make my own points and comments. I'm sorry if you feel that they lack merit.
I'm sure that if i used gender to ironically disparage people, no one would point out the harm.
/s, for those who need it.
I'm very aware that white women have been the primary beneficiaries of DEI policies. I am also aware of ongoing efforts to resegregate the workplace. I don't think snarkily pretending i lack reading comprehension when i merely commented on language is nice.
No, I did not think my own points lack merit. That's why I went to the trouble of making them via the very obvious use of satire.
@Lana @OldAndCranky @ariaflame I don't know how i could take that away from you.
Have confidence.
@Lana@beige.party @OldAndCranky@sfba.social @ariaflame@masto.ai you misread me again, by the way. I did not say you think your own comments lack merit. That would be odd.
Edit: if misreading me was a joke, I'm not sure what the punchline would be? I did not misunderstand you initially, purposely or otherwise. Which i explained.
I'm not going to correct your communication. But I'll note that you switched to a serious mode to accuse me of mansplaining, only to purposely misrepresent me. Unless, ofc, you misunderstood.
Good day
@Lana @cykonot @ariaflame i'm starting to think this person just can't understand satire or parody. Some folks can't.
@OldAndCranky @Lana @cykonot True, not all forms of humour work for everyone.
@Lana @OldAndCranky @ariaflame i think some women wouldn't like it if I called the incompetent loyalists recieving Trump's patronage "girls who couldn't cut it" and implied they were getting benefits on that basis.
DEI was most often used by Republicans to disparage people of color. They are branching out now, but if you look at earlier usage in their propaganda i think you'd see my point. They called a black Mayor the "DEI" mayor. i think they started using it inclusively more after the planes
@Lana @OldAndCranky @ariaflame when they were attacking black women heading academic institutions, the DEI was the color. At that time, they weren't purging white women.
@cykonot That usage of DEI as a code word for black or brown people is exactly what the original sarcastic post was about. @Lana @OldAndCranky @ariaflame
@EricFielding @Lana @OldAndCranky @ariaflame i still understand that. I'm not the language police. What point are you people making?
I also think that using woke sarcastically can be uncouth. But maybe i have a different perspective on some things.
The only reason i commented, was that a great many people on this network were using DEI in that manner. In other circles, that usage wasn't so prominent. So i commented on a popular post.
This social network has a very particular tone.
Ironically, focusing on verbiage is something the OSS (CIA predecessor) recommends as a way of sabotaging and derailing meetings & organizations (page 28, item 5).
https://www.cia.gov/static/5c875f3ec660e092cf893f60b4a288df/SimpleSabotage.pdf
Again, I'm not trying to be the word police. But on that day, DEI was primarily being used to mock & denegrate. Having seen what happened to "woke," I decided to add another perspective.
I understand sarcasm. I was not trying to "cancel" anyone. I wanted visibility. I didn't (try to) hijack the thread.
The post was already somewhat viral. Maybe pointing out potential impacts of joking in that way was rude, but the original poster didn't even say that. Whether or not she understood what i meant is something only she knows. She certainly didn't want to engage with it, other than to accuse me of missing her point and being sexist. Which i don't think was a joke or sarcasm.
I'm generally the one joking & being scolded on this site. I like to think I take input well, but maybe we all can be better
I know i was being a buzzkill. I just thought the value of people on this site seeing my comment outweighed this potential blowback. Considering the fact that they only accused me of being unable to detect sarcasm 3 days later, I don't think I actually bothered them. She changed arguments repeatedly, all while trying to paint me as having poor reading comprehension.
Most people argue to win. But the only thing she seemed after was painting me negatively. Engaging further did not feel productive
I'm not really the type to argue, frankly.
The best points stand on their own.
I didn't impune her in my first comment, but feeling rebuked doesn't surprise me. That said, i think she took a very unfair and disingenuous tack. I never asked her to validate my views, though she claimed my point on language was the same as lampooning republican hypocrisy while amplifying their warped definitions.
Her post wasn't bad, really. I just wanted visibility. Hopefully i won't miss much, after blocking
I think it was incredibly... Something... To say that a person of color highlighting how language has been weaponised against them is "mansplaining." Apparently, one mustn't mention something so very off-color in the presence of a White Woman.
I worked towards that further up, but was derailed. Nevertheless, a disorienting accusation. While trying to paint me as a buffoon! And flip-flopping between angles and tones.
Maybe experiencing this around Black issues on mastodon shouldn't surprise me.
It took chutzpah, let's say. Except that people don't typically think of the implications of things. So it feels more like reflexive lagging
@Lana @cykonot @OldAndCranky Oh, are they a mansplainer? That explains a lot.