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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://universeodon.com/@UncleDuke1969" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>UncleDuke1969</span></a></span> why would anyone want to shackle themselves to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Verizon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Verizon</span></a> when there are better <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>prepaid</span></a> options?</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ajsadauskas</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>JessTheUnstill</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tomiahonen</span></a></span> yes, and to <em>add insult to injury</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mozilla</span></a> didn't even wanted to sell people like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fuchsiii</span></a></span> or me a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FirefoxOS</span></a> device, with the only one being <em>"launched"</em> in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SimLock</span></a>'d &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetLock</span></a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>prepaid</span></a> phone in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Spain</span></a> one could only attain in-store with all the <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a>"</em> nonsense they had, demanding a legal address in Spain back then.</p><ul><li>So whilst Firefox OS had the <em>most "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/accessible" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>accessible</span></a>"</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Development" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Development</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tools" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tools</span></a> (literally using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a> for it and having <em>every <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>App</span></a></em> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebView" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WebView</span></a>|s / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTML5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HTML5</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JS5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JS5</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CSS3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CSS3</span></a> files in a container), they didn't even sold <em>us</em> said devices, making it a worse flop than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuTouch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuTouch</span></a> which at least still gets some devices made that support it...</li></ul><p>And <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/nerds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nerds</span></a> like myself are far from the <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/consoomer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>consoomer</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Normies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Normies</span></a>"</em> for whom stuff that isn't on shelves at Staturn/MediaMarkt, BestBuy, Walmart, ... doesn't exist. I'm used to importing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> that I want!</p><ul><li>Feels even more <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">half-assed</a> than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> in hindsight…</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://gamepad.club/@nico198X" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nico198X</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>aral</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.riley.pub/@robin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>robin</span></a></span> Problem with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PayPal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PayPal</span></a> et. al. is that there ain't real &amp; global competitiors.</p><ul><li>AFAIK, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SEPA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SEPA</span></a>-bound <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/wero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>wero</span></a> won't allow people to setup accounts outside <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EFTA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EFTA</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SEPA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SEPA</span></a> area and get them at least topped-up (unlike PayPal, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VISA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VISA</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MasterCard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MasterCard</span></a>, which literally offer <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Prepaid</span></a> cards aroubd the globe except North Korea, Belarus, Cuba and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WesternSahara" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WesternSahara</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SADR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SADR</span></a>)…</li></ul><p>And not only is it impractical for people to travel in person to i.e. Germany just to wait weeks (!!!) on an appointment and get a bank accout opened in person but even then the <a href="https://www.bafin.de/EN/Verbraucher/Bank/Produkte/Basiskonto/basiskonto_node_en.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bsic Account</a> as per <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.bund.de/@BaFin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>BaFin</span></a></span> regulations only applies to consumers in Germany and not SMEs from overseas and even then those business accounts are usually way more expensive than partnering with an expensive payment processor to outsorce headaches.</p><ul><li>Ask me how I know... </li></ul><p>Needless to say the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PayPalMafia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PayPalMafia</span></a> got their power to basically monopolize global payments...</p>
Jan Penfrat<p>The 🇵🇱 Polish government has suggested new EU rules to ban the <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/anonymous" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>anonymous</span></a> purchase of <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>prepaid</span></a> <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/SIMcards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIMcards</span></a>.</p><p>“The main threat associated with prepaid SIM cards is <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/anonymity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>anonymity</span></a>,” says a document obtained by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@statewatch" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>statewatch</span></a></span> and one cannot make one's disdain for <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/humanrights" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>humanrights</span></a> any clearer.</p><p>Extensive research has found no evidence that bans on anonymous purchases of SIM cards contribute to reducing <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/crime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>crime</span></a>.</p><p><a href="https://www.statewatch.org/news/2025/march/eu-officials-discuss-banning-anonymous-use-of-mobile-phones/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">statewatch.org/news/2025/march</span><span class="invisible">/eu-officials-discuss-banning-anonymous-use-of-mobile-phones/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/digitalrights" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>digitalrights</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://cubhub.social/@Rusty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Rusty</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://rubber.social/@dragonarchitect" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>dragonarchitect</span></a></span> I disagree re: webOS and FirefoxOS.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/webOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webOS</span></a> failed due to lack of market penetration (there was only like 1 Tablet from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hp</span></a>) and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FirefoxOS</span></a> failed because <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@mozillaofficial" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mozillaofficial</span></a></span> didn't even offer to sell devices to folks like me and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fuchsiii</span></a></span> that wanted one.</p><ul><li>The only devices with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a> OS in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> were a few <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetLock</span></a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>prepaid</span></a> phones that got sold in Spain (reqiring ID for no valid reason!) and which were essentially useless for anyone outside of Spain.</li></ul><p>Add to that the absurdity that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mozilla</span></a> basically expected carriers (!!) to maintain and provide the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AppStore</span></a>|s themselves and you get market fracturing worse than the <em>"P.R."</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>China</span></a> (!!!)…</p><p>It was mismanaged and self-sabotaged in the worst possible way.</p><ul><li>Similar to how <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OLPC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OLPC</span></a> never sold the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XO1" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XO1</span></a> in retail and didn't even offer the <em>"Give one, Get one"</em> deal in most places...</li></ul><p>The <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Duopoly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Duopoly</span></a> of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>iOS</span></a> wasn't unavoidable, but an outcome of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfSabotage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfSabotage</span></a> and halfassed non-commitment by competitors!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@quasigod" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>quasigod</span></a></span> there's a reason <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SimLock</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetLock</span></a> died in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Europe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Europe</span></a> over a decade ago.</p><ul><li>People don't like getting shafted - espechally on expensive devices.</li></ul><p>That being said even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Prepaid</span></a> providers don't lock their devices anymore but instead they just sell people devices at cost with a tiny margin and make their €€€ longterm bunding a free <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a> with every purchase.</p><ul><li>But yeah, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/US" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>US</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telco" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telco</span></a>|s are shit!</li></ul>